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W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins 10:07pm Aug 31
My guess is charges will be dropped and everyone will hope it will all go away. And it will unless she sues and or outside parties become interested. As far as I can tell there is no stomach to pursue it by anyone in Dawson County, including Democrats.
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W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins10:05pm Aug 31
If Nydia decides to sue for an illegal arrest the Johnny Burt and the GOP have hung themselves by their own petard. IMO only Deal or his GOP apparatus had the authority to address Ms. Tiddale's activities. If Wooten took his direction from Johnny Burt then it became illegal at that point. If he took direction from the GOP operatives that will require examination of her right to film vs their efforts to secure law enforcement to force her to desist.

I think the Dawson GOP chair was obviously attempting to exclude the GOP from accountability with her cameo appearance.
Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson9:38pm Aug 31
The Political Vine offers a plausible version of what probably happened and provoke the Republicans to do what they did. It is a long and detailed read but worthwhile.

http://politicalvine.com/politicalrumors/odds-and-ends/terror-at-burts-pumpkin-farm-gasp-someone-is-recording-the-speeches/
W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins9:04pm Aug 31
lol The whole thing shouldn't have happened. Deal was in charge of the event. He made the public invitation. Only his people had the standing to complain about the taping. The redneck Deputy Captain should have known that. It is all there when we see how Ms. Tisdale's efforts to remind him of that were ignored. Ignorance of he law is no excuse even for a Captain Deputy..
Jon Kirkpatrick
Jon Kirkpatrick7:54pm Aug 31
Lorraine you are so savvy, I couldn't even find the announcement and figured it must have been pulled.
Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson5:30pm Aug 31
you are great lorraine.
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W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins5:10pm Aug 31
Link to the Deal created FB event page inviting the public to the Burt's Farm event where videoblogger Nydia Tisdale was arrested.. I have also saved a screen shot in case they take it down.

https://www.facebook.com/events/699983930079800/
Nathan Deal's photo.
Saturday, August 23 at 3:30pm
Burt's Pumpkin Farm, 5 Burts Pumpkin Farm Road, Dawsonville, GA 30534
You were invited by Nydia Tisdale

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Re: [North Georgia Democrats] Link to the Deal created FB event page inviting...

W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins 10:05pm Aug 31
If Nydia decides to sue for an illegal arrest the Johnny Burt and the GOP have hung themselves by their own petard. IMO only Deal or his GOP apparatus had the authority to address Ms. Tiddale's activities. If Wooten took his direction from Johnny Burt then it became illegal at that point. If he took direction from the GOP operatives that will require examination of her right to film vs their efforts to secure law enforcement to force her to desist.

I think the Dawson GOP chair was obviously attempting to exclude the GOP from accountability with her cameo appearance.
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Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson9:38pm Aug 31
The Political Vine offers a plausible version of what probably happened and provoke the Republicans to do what they did. It is a long and detailed read but worthwhile.

http://politicalvine.com/politicalrumors/odds-and-ends/terror-at-burts-pumpkin-farm-gasp-someone-is-recording-the-speeches/
W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins9:04pm Aug 31
lol The whole thing shouldn't have happened. Deal was in charge of the event. He made the public invitation. Only his people had the standing to complain about the taping. The redneck Deputy Captain should have known that. It is all there when we see how Ms. Tisdale's efforts to remind him of that were ignored. Ignorance of he law is no excuse even for a Captain Deputy..
Jon Kirkpatrick
Jon Kirkpatrick7:54pm Aug 31
Lorraine you are so savvy, I couldn't even find the announcement and figured it must have been pulled.
Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson5:30pm Aug 31
you are great lorraine.
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W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins5:10pm Aug 31
Link to the Deal created FB event page inviting the public to the Burt's Farm event where videoblogger Nydia Tisdale was arrested.. I have also saved a screen shot in case they take it down.

https://www.facebook.com/events/699983930079800/
Nathan Deal's photo.
Saturday, August 23 at 3:30pm
Burt's Pumpkin Farm, 5 Burts Pumpkin Farm Road, Dawsonville, GA 30534
You were invited by Nydia Tisdale

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Re: [North Georgia Democrats] Link to the Deal created FB event page inviting...

W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins 9:04pm Aug 31
lol The whole thing shouldn't have happened. Deal was in charge of the event. He made the public invitation. Only his people had the standing to complain about the taping. The redneck Deputy Captain should have known that. It is all there when we see how Ms. Tisdale's efforts to remind him of that were ignored.
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Jon Kirkpatrick
Jon Kirkpatrick7:54pm Aug 31
Lorraine you are so savvy, I couldn't even find the announcement and figured it must have been pulled.
Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson5:30pm Aug 31
you are great lorraine.
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W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins5:10pm Aug 31
Link to the Deal created FB event page inviting the public to the Burt's Farm event where videoblogger Nydia Tisdale was arrested.. I have also saved a screen shot in case they take it down.

https://www.facebook.com/events/699983930079800/
Nathan Deal's photo.
Saturday, August 23 at 3:30pm
Burt's Pumpkin Farm, 5 Burts Pumpkin Farm Road, Dawsonville, GA 30534
You were invited by Nydia Tisdale

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Chuck Johnson
Chuck Johnson 8:10pm Aug 31
So glad that when I worked with law enforcement they weren't as damn stupid as they appear to be today.
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Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson5:31pm Aug 30
she has council and she will sue. she just won a case against the city of cumming for violation of open meetings laws for $14,000 the maximum allowed.
Lamar Wadsworth
Lamar Wadsworth4:44pm Aug 30
I know a good liberal Democrat lawyer in Cartersville who has a reputation as a tough litigator. He could make those clowns think their names are The Defendants, bet he would love to get this case if Ms. Tisdale wants to sue. Even the Republican AG Sam Olens tried to warn them.
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Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson4:22pm Aug 30
Watch the Nydia Tisdale Story go VIRAL on the Internet.

Jim Galloway/AJC.com post at 11 am 8/30/2014 had 220 comments at 4:20 pm.

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2014/08/30/watch-nydia-tisdales-video-adventure-at-the-dawsonville-gop-rally/
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Jon Kirkpatrick
Jon Kirkpatrick 7:54pm Aug 31
Lorraine you are so savvy, I couldn't even find the announcement and figured it must have been pulled.
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Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson5:30pm Aug 31
you are great lorraine.
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W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins5:10pm Aug 31
Link to the Deal created FB event page inviting the public to the Burt's Farm event where videoblogger Nydia Tisdale was arrested.. I have also saved a screen shot in case they take it down.

https://www.facebook.com/events/699983930079800/
Nathan Deal's photo.
Saturday, August 23 at 3:30pm
Burt's Pumpkin Farm, 5 Burts Pumpkin Farm Road, Dawsonville, GA 30534
You were invited by Nydia Tisdale

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W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins 5:04pm Aug 31
Here is a link to the Deal created page inviting the public to the event.
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Tom Hughes
Tom Hughes7:12am Aug 31
Attorney General Olens was there and asked, "What have we got to hide." This is not the first time she was ejected from a meeting( to which the public was invited). This time Olens has advised that the charges be dropped. Earlier Olens brought legal action against the offending parties and the defendants were fined $12,000. Olens and videographer have been through this before. http://www.peachpundit.com/2014/08/26/ag-olens-wins-nydia-tisdale-case/
Jon Kirkpatrick
Jon Kirkpatrick11:38pm Aug 30
As I said before the Republican rally on Burt's Farm was a "public" invited event, even though on private property, it IMO constitutes an "open meeting." I'm not a lawyer but it shouldn't be difficult to verify the nature of the Republican rally. Keep scrapping the scab off Frank and the wound open!
W Lorraine Watkins
W Lorraine Watkins10:28pm Aug 30
Also this was a publicly advertised meeting on Nathan Deal's FaceBook page and the public was invited. Can never be sure of just how law is written but that does make it a public event and if so it is likely recording cannot be prohibited by the landowner.
Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson9:53pm Aug 30
The Open Meetings laws of Georgia specifically allow the video or tape recordings of all meetings. If they stop you, they are in violation of the law and can be fined.
Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson9:52pm Aug 30
One especially powerful way to show support for Nydia Tisdale at this time would be for a group of people to spontaneously rise up and do the same the same thing that Ms Tisdale was doing in your own community. 2) Acquire a simple video recorder. (They don't cost all that much, now). 2) Attend open government public meetings in your community and simply record them. A good place to start is with the County Commission, City Council, and School Board. 3) Load the unedited video records to a Youtube Channel that you can set which is totally free. 4) Announce to your communty that you are doing this via the free community events column in your local newspaper. We are All Nydia Tisdale Now.
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Frank Gilkeson
Frank Gilkeson8:42pm Aug 30
Nydia Tisdale Arrest: Property Rights versus Free Speech Rights

Property rights is not the most important issue here as some seem to think. The property rights issue is placed center stage just to divert people from the real issue.

The real issue is "why did the Republican operatives at the event target Ms Tisdale"?

She was NOT the only one in the room with recording equipment.

Sitting two rows behind Ms Tisdale was the reporter for FetchYourNews located in Gilmer, Pickens, and Fannin Counties. That reporter audio recorded everything and he captured the still photos that you see of Ms Tisdale being dragged away by the cop. He sat there and witnessed the whole thing and published a report about what he saw. Go to Fetchyounews.com to see his many excellent reports on the event.

There were other is the room with recording equipment. We live in the Internet Age and many folks probably were recording parts of the event on their SmartPhones as routinely occurs now.

The Republican operatives did NOT eject the Fetchyournews reporter. They did not tell the public to turn off their SmartPhones.

The key question is why did the Republicans deliberately target Ms Tisdale?

In an earlier post on AJC.com, long-time Georgia political pundit Jim Galloway gives his opinion about this.

Jim Galloway said that Ms Tisdale was specifically targeted because she had a reputation for video recording events and them just posting the whole thing unedited and without any comentary on Youtube for the whole wide world to see. Galloway said that certain Republicans knew what she was going to do and felt a need to stop her because letting unedited videos of their rally could be damaging publicity.

For more information go read Mr. Galloway's post on AJC.com on 'how a plan to keep a GOP Rally off the Internet went astray".

The private property issue is just a diversion to distract people away from the real issue.

In a way Ms Tiisdale was providing a free service to the Republicans. She was getting their unedited message out for them to the whole wide world without it costing them a thing.

What could really be wrong with that?

Nydia Tisdale has an archive of over 600 unedited videos of open public meetings and other events of general interest. Most of her work is done in Forsyth County Georgia where she is "notorious". Her Work is on display at the NydiaTisdale Channel on Youtube. Go and see what she does for yourself. Ms Tisdale is a great advocate for free speech and open public meetings in our time. She is totally politically nonpartisan.

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